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Wellness Force Radio Episode 312

Co-Founder and CEO of WIRED magazine, Co-Host of the Cool Tools podcast, and Author of his latest book, The Inevitable, Kevin Kelly, shares what technology can teach us about ourselves, explores how technology expresses its conscious self through The Technium and discusses the differences being healing and destructive technology.

Discover why we shouldn't automatically dismiss technology but continue to seek ways to improve it.

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The Inevitable by Kevin Kelly

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A New York Times Bestseller from one of our leading technology thinkers and writers, a guide through the twelve technological imperatives that will shape the next thirty years and transform our lives.

Much of what will happen in the next thirty years is inevitable, driven by technological trends that are already in motion. In this fascinating, provocative new book, Kevin Kelly provides an optimistic road map for the future, showing how the coming changes in our lives—from virtual reality in the home to an on-demand economy to artificial intelligence embedded in everything we manufacture—can be understood as the result of a few long-term, accelerating forces. Kelly both describes these deep trends—interacting, cognifying, flowing, screening, accessing, sharing, filtering, remixing, tracking, and questioning—and demonstrates how they overlap and are codependent on one another.

The 12 Technological Forces

These larger forces will completely revolutionize the way we buy, work, learn, and communicate with each other. By understanding and embracing them, says Kelly, it will be easier for us to remain on top of the coming wave of changes and to arrange our day-to-day relationships with technology in ways that bring forth maximum benefits. Kelly’s bright, hopeful book will be indispensable to anyone who seeks guidance on where their business, industry, or life is heading—what to invent, where to work, in what to invest, how to better reach customers, and what to begin to put into place—as this new world emerges.

Listen To Episode 312 As Kevin Kelly Uncovers:

1:30 The Future Of Humanity And AI

WIRED magazine
Cool Tools podcast
The Inevitable by Kevin Kelly
Cool Tools website
Kevin Kelly
The Technium
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Kevin's background before he launched WIRED and what inspires his work today. (6:30)
How technology can be so liberating and is leading the way to improve our world. (10:40)
Our role in this world and why we will become better humans as AI technology grows.

12:00 Ethics Lessons From Technology

How artificial intelligence is teaching us to have better values and make greater ethical decisions.
Why our own ethics are very inconsistent and we excuse each other's mistakes compared to not giving a pass to technology.
How to go deeper and understand why we act and treat ourselves and others the way we do. (15:00)
275 Paul Chek

16:00 What Nature Can Teach Us About AI

His book, The Inevitable, and the 12 larger, technological forces that will completely revolutionize the way we buy, work, learn, and communicate with each other.
Why inventors like Thomas Edison didn't even know what use their inventions would be for us and their impact on society.
The fact that it can take as long as up to a generation for us to fully decide what use a piece of technology is to the world.
Why the only way to understand the impact of technology and whether it will be good or bad is through the embrace and use of it.
How to properly decide if the cons of a piece of technology outweigh the pros. (21:00)
Why he goes to nature and human biology to look for answers on how we can better construct our artificial systems. (24:00)
The impact of traveling to give us a new perspective on the world we've created today.

28:15 The Impact Of The Technium On Our World

What The Technium is and how it allows technology to express its consciousness.
How The Technium helps create order in our world as an extension of both life and accelerated evolution. (31:30)
Why inventors have a moral obligation to keep inventing in order to let others such as Beethoven share their incredible gifts with the world. (33:00)
How we are both the Creators and The Created in our relationship with technology.

35:00 Human Connection Through Technology

How to challenge our relationship with technology as a society.
Why technology is such a blessing for us vs. the fear people might have about it.
The fact that some people are better at connecting in person rather than through communication tools.
Alan Watts
The Elder Concept in Native American Culture: our ability to gather, apply, and embody lessons and knowledge.
Kevin's All Species Foundation non-profit organization to categorize all living things on Earth and why we launched it.

40:00 Technology As A Reflection Of The Divine

His personal beliefs on creation and how technology comes into place.
Why technology is actually a reflection of the divine.
The old technology we still use as a vital part of our society from concrete and paving to plumbing.
His out-of-body experiences during a dentist visit and later with taking LSD as a sacrament on his 50th birthday. (44:20)
What he learned from taking LSD including that we are all connected and supported.

46:00 The Ying-Yang of Technology

The fact that most of our future problems are with technology are going to come from the technology of today.
Why we should aim to improve and revamp technology as soon as we find a problem instead of completely dismissing it and seeing it as something bad.
His belief that we cannot make a world in the future until we visualize it and all its technological improvements first now in the present.
The power of solving old problems with new technology in order to move forward. (48:00)

Power Quotes From The Show

Our Small Contribution To The Universe

"The difference between living systems and artificial systems are very small. When we're inventing new technology, even if they're consumables that will be thrown away, we are participating in a very long arc through the universe of these increasing choices and possibilities; the same thing that evolution and life are doing. So, we're part of something bigger when we make and invent things. Technology is a big thing; it has a spiritual dimension." - Kevin Kelly

When To Embrace Or Let Go Of Technology

"The only way to understand how technology is used for the greater good and find out what its bad parts are is through the use of it. That's why I preach this embrace of technology but we should also be quick to let it go or change it as we see fit. This stance of initial embracing technology and then reworking, adjusting, and revamping it is the pattern we're going to have forever. Instead of immediately rejecting technology, let's bring it on and see what it's actually good for in the world." - Kevin Kelly

We Are The Creators & The Created

"There is a fundamental contradiction and tension between the fact that we individual humans are both The Masters of what we create and The Created at the same time. So, as we make the tools, the tools make us. We are both the parent and the child of technology. Even in a thousand years, we will still be struggling with the fact that we are two-faced; we are both the master and slave to technology." - Kevin Kelly

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About Kevin Kelly

Kevin Kelly is Senior Maverick at Wired magazine. He co-founded Wired in 1993, and served as its Executive Editor for its first seven years. His new book for Viking/Penguin is called The Inevitable, which is a New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestseller. He is also founding editor and co-publisher of the popular Cool Tools website, which has been reviewing tools daily since 2003.

From 1984-1990 Kelly was publisher and editor of the Whole Earth Review, a journal of unorthodox technical news. He co-founded the ongoing Hackers’ Conference and was involved with the launch of the WELL, a pioneering online service started in 1985.

Other Works From Kevin

Other books by Kelly include 1) best-selling New Rules for the New Economy, an early book outlining the digital economy, 2) Out of Control, the classic book on decentralized emergent systems, 3) The Silver Cord, a graphic novel about robots and angels, 4) Cool Tools, an oversize catalog of the best tools in the universe, and 5) What Technology Wants, a robust theory of technology.

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