Bevy Smith, Debra Lee, and Kiana Fitzgerald discuss the 50th anniversary of hip hop, reflecting on its impact, evolution, and challenges. They address the representation of women in the industry, misogyny and homophobia in hip hop, and the hope for positive change in the genre's future.
Hip-hop has evolved from its early days to become a powerful force of influence and entrepreneurship for artists.
Women in hip-hop face a dichotomy, with increasing success but also pressure to conform to societal standards.
Deep dives
The Evolution of Hip-Hop: A Harlem Native's Perspective
Bevie Smith, a Harlem native, reflects on the early days of hip-hop and its cultural impact. Being from the Bronx's neighboring community, Smith witnessed the birth and electrifying effect of hip-hop. She shares her personal experiences as a young adult immersed in the hip-hop party scene and her later career in fashion and media, connecting artists to brands and introducing them to the industry. Smith has always recognized the power and influence of hip-hop, seeing it as an undeniable music of the people. Despite concerns about the financial exploitation of artists, she is encouraged by the increasing control artists have over their brands and their focus on building businesses.
Hip-Hop's Evolution and Challenges at BET
Debra Lee, formerly of BET, speaks about the evolution and challenges of hip-hop during her time at the network. She recalls the early days of Rap City and the introduction of hip-hop videos to BET's programming. Lee discusses the shift from good-hearted and fun rap to more explicit and controversial content, along with the negative portrayal of women in videos. Facing criticism and scrutiny, BET implemented stricter standards for videos. As rappers matured, there was a shift towards more business-focused and family-oriented perspectives. While proud of the progress, Lee recognizes the continued need for improvement, particularly in representation and inclusivity.
Misogyny and Homophobia in Hip-Hop
The podcast delves into the ongoing challenge of misogyny and homophobia within hip-hop. Kiana Fitzgerald, a hip-hop scholar and journalist, discusses the flaws and limitations present in the genre. She highlights the history of derogatory lyrics and stigma surrounding women and queer individuals in hip-hop. The conversation focuses on Dr. Dre's abuse allegations, the hypermasculinity perpetuated by prominent male rappers, and the lack of representation and resources for queer artists. While progress has been made, there is still work to be done to achieve inclusivity and acceptance within the genre.
The Dichotomy of Women in Hip-Hop
The podcast explores the dichotomy faced by women in hip-hop. It acknowledges the increasing success and representation of women artists such as Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion, and Doja Cat, who are breaking away from traditional stereotypes. However, it also examines the pressure women face to fit certain expectations, including cosigns from male rappers, physical appearance, and performance of their womanhood. The conversation questions whether women can truly express themselves as individuals in hip-hop or if they are still confined by societal standards. While progress is being made, there is still a long way to go in achieving true equality and freedom for women in the genre.
This year marks the 50th anniversary of hip hop since the genre first erupted on the scene in the Bronx. On this episode, we hear from Bevy Smith, Debra Lee and music writer Kiana Fitzgerald on how far hip hop has come and how much work still needs to be done when it comes to women in the industry.