Rick Perry: The Conservative Case for Psychedelics
Sep 13, 2023
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Former Texas governor and Trump administration member Rick Perry discusses the conservative case for psychedelics as legal medicine for veterans and individuals with PTSD. He highlights Ibogaine as a potent substance and advocates for logical conversations on immigration reform. The podcast also explores the potential benefits of psychedelic therapy for trauma survivors and emphasizes the importance of proper diagnosis, dosing, guidance, and follow-up. The host concludes by recommending other Reason-produced podcast series.
Rick Perry supports the legalization of psychedelics as medicine, specifically for veterans with PTSD.
Perry emphasizes the need for careful research, appropriate dosing, guidance during therapy, and proper follow-up to ensure safe and effective treatment of psychedelics.
Deep dives
The Psychedelic Renaissance: Exploring the Medical Potential of Psychedelics
At the Psychedelic Science 2023 Conference, former Republican Texas governor and Trump administration energy secretary Rick Perry surprised attendees by advocating for the legalization of psychedelics as medicine, particularly for veterans suffering from PTSD. Perry's interest in the subject was sparked by a conversation with a former Navy SEAL who supports the use of psychedelics for treating post-traumatic stress. Perry believes that psychedelics were unfairly stigmatized in the 1970s for political reasons and that their therapeutic potential is promising. He referenced studies demonstrating impressive results in treating anxiety, depression, and sleeplessness associated with trauma. Perry emphasizes the need for careful research, appropriate dosing, guidance during therapy, and proper follow-up to ensure safe and effective treatment.
Political Consensus on Psychedelics: Moving Beyond Partisan Labels
Perry acknowledges the polarization of politics but believes that the medical potential of psychedelics can transcend partisan lines. He cites support from Republicans, especially those with military backgrounds who have witnessed the trauma experienced by war veterans. However, Perry emphasizes that support for psychedelics should not be viewed as a Democrat or Republican issue, but rather as a human issue focused on helping individuals and saving lives. He also cautions against rushing into full legalization, advocating for a thoughtful and well-regulated approach to ensure the efficacy and safety of psychedelic-assisted therapies.
Immigration and Limited Government: Perry's Perspective
Beyond psychedelics, Perry touches on immigration, advocating for a nuanced approach rather than simplistic solutions. He proposes a system where immigrants register, provide biometric data, and receive legal status. As long as individuals comply with laws and pay taxes, they can remain in the country. Perry believes that this system could ensure a legal workforce without the challenges and problems associated with illegal immigration. He calls for a logical conversation to find a solution that balances the need for controlled borders while providing opportunities for legal immigration.
In June, I traveled to Denver with Zach Weismueller to cover the Psychedelic Science 2023 conference, organized by the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), a group that has been working to gain Food and Drug Administration approval of MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD since the late 1980s. We produced a 30-minute documentary about today's "psychedelic renaissance."
The most surprising speaker at the conference was Rick Perry, the former Texas governor and Trump administration energy secretary. What in tarnation was a conservative Republican doing on the stage, extolling the virtues of drugs long associated with hippies and 1960s counterculture?
I sat down with Perry to learn why he believes psychedelics should be legal medicine for veterans and others suffering from PTSD, how to allow more immigrants to come to America lawfully, and why if he were ever to take a psychedelic drug it would be Ibogaine, a notoriously powerful substance made from the bark of an African tree.