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Rick Perry: The Conservative Case for Psychedelics

Sep 13, 2023

Former Texas governor and Trump administration member Rick Perry discusses the conservative case for psychedelics as legal medicine for veterans and individuals with PTSD. He highlights Ibogaine as a potent substance and advocates for logical conversations on immigration reform. The podcast also explores the potential benefits of psychedelic therapy for trauma survivors and emphasizes the importance of proper diagnosis, dosing, guidance, and follow-up. The host concludes by recommending other Reason-produced podcast series.

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Rick Perry supports the legalization of psychedelics as medicine, specifically for veterans with PTSD.

Perry emphasizes the need for careful research, appropriate dosing, guidance during therapy, and proper follow-up to ensure safe and effective treatment of psychedelics.

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The Psychedelic Renaissance: Exploring the Medical Potential of Psychedelics

At the Psychedelic Science 2023 Conference, former Republican Texas governor and Trump administration energy secretary Rick Perry surprised attendees by advocating for the legalization of psychedelics as medicine, particularly for veterans suffering from PTSD. Perry's interest in the subject was sparked by a conversation with a former Navy SEAL who supports the use of psychedelics for treating post-traumatic stress. Perry believes that psychedelics were unfairly stigmatized in the 1970s for political reasons and that their therapeutic potential is promising. He referenced studies demonstrating impressive results in treating anxiety, depression, and sleeplessness associated with trauma. Perry emphasizes the need for careful research, appropriate dosing, guidance during therapy, and proper follow-up to ensure safe and effective treatment.

Introduction

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Psychedelics as Therapy: Finding Common Ground

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The Potential Benefits of Psychedelic Therapy and Personal Experience with Trauma

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Surprising Advocacy for Psychedelics and Logical Conversations on Immigration

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Conclusion and Recommendations

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In June, I traveled to Denver with Zach Weismueller to cover the Psychedelic Science 2023 conference, organized by the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), a group that has been working to gain Food and Drug Administration approval of MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD since the late 1980s. We produced a 30-minute documentary about today's "psychedelic renaissance."

The most surprising speaker at the conference was Rick Perry, the former Texas governor and Trump administration energy secretary. What in tarnation was a conservative Republican doing on the stage, extolling the virtues of drugs long associated with hippies and 1960s counterculture?

I sat down with Perry to learn why he believes psychedelics should be legal medicine for veterans and others suffering from PTSD, how to allow more immigrants to come to America lawfully, and why if he were ever to take a psychedelic drug it would be Ibogaine, a notoriously powerful substance made from the bark of an African tree.

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The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie

Rick Perry: The Conservative Case for Psychedelics

Episode guests

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

Deep dives

The Psychedelic Renaissance: Exploring the Medical Potential of Psychedelics

Political Consensus on Psychedelics: Moving Beyond Partisan Labels

Immigration and Limited Government: Perry's Perspective

Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts