In this second part of my conversation with Kate Schapira, author of "Lessons from the Climate Anxiety Counseling Booth," we cover the squishier parts of writing, including:

- The process of deciding just how vulnerable to be in your writing

- The emotional difference between writing poetry and writing prescriptive non-fiction

- How her inner critic is a salty SOB

- How a writing group holds you accountable to write despite what your inner critic is telling you

- A peek inside the mechanics and beauties of Kate's writing group

- The illusion of innocence (WOW this really blew my mind open)

- Trying to be a good person vs. trying to have a good effect

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