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Lex Fridman Podcast

#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Apr 18, 2020
Stephen Wolfram, a renowned computer scientist and founder of Wolfram Research, dives deep into fascinating topics like cellular automata and their role in understanding the natural world. He explores how simple rules can lead to unexpected complexity, and discusses the philosophical implications of computation in the universe. The conversation also touches on the challenges of conveying complex scientific ideas and the evolution of programming languages. Finally, Wolfram reflects on consciousness, ethics in AI, and the quest for a unified theory of existence.
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  • The principle of computational equivalence suggests that even systems with simple rules can exhibit complex behavior across various computational frameworks, potentially applying to the underlying structure of physics.
  • The search for fundamental laws of physics is ongoing, with interest in finding the most structuralist structures that can underlie space and time, whether computational or not.

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The Principle of Computational Equivalence

The principle of computational equivalence suggests that when a system follows rules that aren't obviously simple, the behavior of the system corresponds to computation of equivalent sophistication. Even systems with simple rules can exhibit complex behavior. This principle holds true across various computational frameworks, including Turing machines, cellular automata, and brains. While it is not proven to be true for the physical world, there is potential for it to apply to the underlying structure of physics. However, it remains an area of ongoing research.

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