Sometimes the most interesting stories start with the “wrong button.” In this episode, Jay Allen dives into a main story about the disconnect that happens when safety programs don’t evolve alongside the culture of an organization.

Too often, companies rely on static checklists and “click-through” programs that exist on paper but never truly embed into daily operations. Jay explores why safety cannot live as a separate program—it has to be woven directly into the culture. Without that cultural integration, programs lack legitimacy and real impact.

This episode challenges you to ask:

Is your safety program part of the culture—or just paperwork?
Has your program evolved as your organization has evolved?
What does it mean to have “culture culture,” instead of splitting safety into its own silo?

Tune in for a candid discussion about evolution, culture, and why embedding safety into the very fabric of an organization is the only way forward.

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EP 750 - When Programs Don’t Evolve with the Culture