"The difference between a hobby and a business is that if there's a business, it involves some kind of money. And that means somebody is giving you money, which means somebody needs or wants what you're making. So a business is about solving problems. It's about making something someone needs or wants. At the heart of successful business is radical empathy. Why are artists paid to do what they love? Because it's not about me, me, me, me, me. It's we, we, we, we. Together. It's not 'look at me.' It's 'come with me.'"
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