In this episode, Mike shares his journey from getting fired at his first job to becoming CMO of a 7-figure startup. He outlines his decision making framework when a job no longer aligns with long-term goals, how he embraces the discomfort leaving something good to chase something potentially great, and the role of a strong network and clear personal values when making transitions.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

1. The email Mike sent his two bosses that prompted them to say “don’t come back to work”

2. When Mike was thriving in his management consulting role, but knew it wasn’t the right fit

3. The moment when Mike realized that company values and culture is more important than company success

Things to listen for:

[01:18] Zigging while others were zagging

[08:07] Being told “don’t come back to work” by his bosses

[12:26] Mike’s REAL growth experience

[16:16] Getting comfortable being uncomfortable has never been a challenge

[21:56] Becoming CMO at a 7 figure company and realizing it’s not the right fit

[33:52] Playing the long game and expanding his network

[36:27] Take a leap of faith (when his wife wasn’t working)

[40:15] Sumo wrestling and burrito eating contests at work

[41:29] Yvonne Chouinard, the founder of Patagonia, calls Mike’s phone in the middle of a work meeting

Resources:

- Connect with Mike on LinkedIn

- Check out Moonwater

- Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn or Twitter

- Learn more about Navattic

- Learn more about Appcues