Permissionless: DeFi’s Next Frontier | Hayden Adams & David Hoffman

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Jul 1, 2025

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David Hoffmann

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Hayden Adams

Hayden Adams, the brains behind Uniswap, joins David Hoffman, co-founder of Bankless, to dive into the groundbreaking evolution of decentralized finance. They discuss Uniswap's journey from V1 to V4 and the innovative Unichain. Expect insights on enhancing user experience, reducing Miner Extractable Value (MEV), and how DeFi is evolving to compete with traditional finance. The duo also explores the collaborative potential between DeFi and TradFi, setting the stage for the future of financial accessibility.

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INSIGHT

Uniswap's Progressive Innovation

Uniswap started not aiming to be the most efficient but to offer decentralization and provable safety through cryptography.
Each version grew more sophisticated, culminating in Uniswap V4 and Unichain's innovative full-stack approach.

INSIGHT

Full-stack Builds Drive Crypto Success

Uniswap and Unichain leverage full-stack development to build competitive decentralized exchanges and platforms.
Crypto's shift from chains to user-centric products is key to wider adoption and market success.

INSIGHT

MEV Minimization Enhances Markets

Reducing MEV improves user experience and attracts both retail and large players by creating fair, provable transaction ordering.
Innovations like priority fee-based dynamic liquidity fees enable markets to be more efficient and fair, even addressing TradFi challenges like trading hours.

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In this episode, we went live from Permissionless with David Hoffman and Hayden Adams to discuss Uniswap’s evolution from V1 to V4 and the development of Unichain. We dive into Uniswap’s full-stack approach, MEV minimization strategies, competition with centralized platforms, and the future of the Uniswap wallet.

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(1:08) Uniswap's Value Proposition

(6:21) Katana Ad

(6:42) What Can DeFi Do For TradFi?

(12:30) Ads (Katana & Citrea)

(13:32) Handling MEV

(21:38) The Future of Uniswap Wallet

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