

“Couldn’t Keep His Mouth Shut” - Michael Wolff EXPOSES Epstein's Gossip Web, Trump Intel & Enemies | PBD Podcast | Ep. 632
13 snips Aug 19, 2025
Michael Wolff, a renowned Trump biographer and author of "Fire and Fury," delves into the web of connections surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump. They explore the fallout from a 2004 real estate dispute and examine Epstein's opulent lifestyle interwoven with political figures. Wolff reveals Epstein's gossip network and the complexity of his relationships with powerful individuals like Bill Gates. The conversation also touches on personal branding and the influence of recordings in shaping narratives, offering a fascinating glimpse into their intertwined legacies.
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Long Recorded Access To Epstein
- Michael Wolff spent many hours with Jeffrey Epstein from 2014 to 2019 and recorded much of their conversations.
- Epstein sought rehabilitation and invited Wolff into his social world, which produced extensive recorded material.
Friendship Turned Bitter Over Real Estate
- Wolff says Epstein and Trump were once extremely close but became bitter enemies after a 2004 real-estate dispute.
- Epstein believed Trump had informed police about activities at his house and felt deeply betrayed.
Maxwell Shifted From Partner To Functionary
- Ghislaine Maxwell had been close to Epstein but distanced herself after police involvement around 2004–2005.
- Wolff emphasizes Maxwell later functioned more as an employee than as an equal partner.