This discussion features two theists, Glenn Peoples and Randal Rauser, and two atheists, Lance Hannestad and Graham Seth Moore, discussing the conditional premise of the moral argument. All participants affirm the view that moral facts exist and are real, the disagreement is found over the grounding of these moral facts (natural vs supernatural). The theists contend that God is required to ground moral facts, while the atheists contend the opposite: a satisfactory account of moral ontology can be given purely from a naturalistic perspective. Link to the YouTube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ZnRXXPkhY&t=1s Our Website: www.capturingchristianity.com Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/capturingchristianity