As President Michael D Higgins prepares to leave the Áras later this year, he might be considering his next career move.
One possible option might be to return to being a touring poet.
Indeed, perhaps the first step in this career change happened at the weekend, when the President released a new poetry album with a live show in the National Concert Hall.
‘Against All Certainty’ is his debut collection of 10 spoken poems with music by Myles O’Reilly.
So what’s it like to jam with the President? Myles O’Reilly joins Seán to discuss.
