"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg
E115: New Tariff Implications, DeepSeek and Open Source Analysis, and Meta’s Big Bets w/ Byrne Hobart
Feb 6, 2025
Byrne Hobart, a prominent writer of "The Diff" and co-host of "The Riff," joins Erik Torenberg to explore a range of pressing topics. They dissect the new tariff implications on global markets, the rise of populism, and the complexities of AI technologies like DeepSeek. The conversation also covers Meta's ambitious plans in the realms of VR and AI, along with the challenges posed by open-source models. Furthermore, they touch on innovative talent strategies and the evolving dynamics of the stock market, particularly in tech.
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- Recent tariffs reflect deeper socio-political shifts and complexities that require a nuanced understanding beyond economic theory.
- Populist movements' variances across nations emphasize the importance of national contexts, especially in Europe’s political landscape.
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Impact of Tariffs and Shifting Political Landscapes
The podcast delves into the implications of recently imposed tariffs and how they reflect a broader political shift in the U.S. and Europe. It suggests that European countries may experience even more extreme voter behavior compared to the U.S., potentially leading to a rise in populist sentiment. The discussion highlights the complexities behind tariff policies, arguing that they cannot be viewed solely through the lens of economic theory, as real-world behavior often complicates their intended effects. By examining both the skepticism around globalization and the socio-political dynamics driving these tariffs, the podcast illustrates the intricate relationship between economics and politics.
