BBC journalist John Ware, who won a payout from the Labour party in an anti-Semitism row, discusses the party's recent apology and legal battles, internal management struggles, and potential ramifications. The conversation includes insights on the historical values of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn's stance on anti-Semitism, and the impact on party relationships. Additionally, the podcast touches on contrasts between the Corbyn and Blair Press Offices, transparency efforts, leadership transitions, and the role of literature in fostering empathy and understanding.