

Ep.04 Fire to the Phoenix
Jun 2, 2019
Guest
Wally Schirra
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Walt Cunningham
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Roger Chaffee
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Chris Kraft
Guest
Ed White
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Gene Kranz
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George Abbey
Guest
George Jeffs
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Gerry Griffin
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Glynn Lunney
Guest
Gus Grissom
Former NASA astronauts, flight directors, and engineers discuss the Apollo program, focusing on the tragic fire of Apollo 1 and the successful test mission of Apollo 7. They delve into the challenges faced, lack of leadership, and the emotional impact of the fire. The chapter also explores the vital role of the Apollo guidance computer in the moon landing.
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Chaos at North American
- In 1964, George Abbey discovered chaos at North American, the company building Apollo's command module.
- The nominal leader didn't understand the design, and NASA hadn't checked in for months.
Early Apollo Challenges
- NASA's focus on Mercury and Gemini left Apollo with inexperienced staff.
- North American's engineering groups lacked coordination, causing design inconsistencies.
Pre-Fire Concerns
- During a test, Walt Cunningham's crew noted issues with the Apollo 1 spacecraft, like unprotected wiring.
- Wally Schirra, concerned, told Gus Grissom to scrub the next test if any issues arose.