In this “getting real” episode, we’re joined by Amer Iqbal, Founder & CEO of 5 Ways to Innovate, to discuss the unique challenges and opportunities Catalysts face when driving transformation in large organizations. Amer dives deep into the realities of confronting the "corporate immune system," the entrenched resistance to change that can feel insurmountable.

Drawing on his extensive experience, Amer shares powerful strategies for breaking through: getting airtime to share your ideas widely, building disciples who champion your vision, and using compelling storytelling and data to bring people on board. But Amer also candidly addresses the emotional toll this journey can take, revealing how he manages the frustration and harnesses anger as a surprising superpower.

Far from being a detriment, Amer argues that anger is a signal that we care deeply—and a wellspring of energy to drive change. His advice for channeling this energy into meaningful progress includes:

Finding your tribe—the people who understand and support your vision

Identifying your release valve—the practices that help you process and refocus

Seeking inspiration—from individuals and experiences that reignite your passion

For Catalysts navigating resistance and looking for tools to turn frustration into fuel, this conversation is a must-listen.

Original music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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