

Discussion on the Kalam Cosmological Argument
Oct 18, 2024
William Lane Craig, a renowned philosopher and theologian known for his deep dives into the Kalam cosmological argument, joins actor and philosopher Scott Clifton for a stimulating discussion. They explore the historical context and foundations of the argument while engaging with its implications on causality and existence. The duo debates material versus efficient causes and challenges the idea of the universe arising without a cause. Their dialogue ponders the relationship between time, freedom, and a potential deity, making for a thought-provoking conversation.
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Focusing on the First Premise
- Scott Clifton grants the second premise (universe began to exist) to focus on the first premise (everything that begins to exist has a cause).
- He questions the scope of the causal principle, suggesting it might be physical, not metaphysical.
Double Absurdity
- William Lane Craig argues that Clifton's view leads to a double absurdity: the universe having neither an efficient nor a material cause.
- Craig suggests efficient causes can exist without material causes, like thoughts produced by minds.
Material Cause Clarification
- Clifton clarifies that "material cause" refers to the stuff something is formed from, not necessarily physical matter.
- He argues that Craig's view allows for things to begin existing with a material cause but no efficient cause, which seems strange.