Sarah and Dimity grab a beer and gab with running icon Kara Goucher, a mother runner of one who competed in the Olympics on the track (5,000 and 10,000 meters in 2008) and the road (marathon in 2012), in front of a packed party promoting Kara’s new book, Strong. Kara confesses to being “very emotional” and admits she previously viewed that attribute as a weakness. Listen to how her thoughts on that—and other things--changed as she crossed the threshold into her 40s this year.

Dimity unpacks “I deserve to be here,” a powerfully motivating phrase for Kara. Find out what “Enclothed Cognition” is and how it helps remind Kara when it’s “go-time.” Learn how Kara approaches tough workouts and which workouts give her the most confidence. Returning to a topic brought up in the show with Kara’s former training partner Shalane Flanagan, Sarah gets Kara to overshare about peeing on the fly. Kara also shares details of her new tattoo. Learn what lead to her (now-healed) sidelining knee injury (which Kara says felt like “a thousand punches to my face and my gut”) and empathize with her as she details how she dealt with being sidelined from running. Discover what marathon goal Kara is gunning for—and what new-for-her type of race she’s considering.

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