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LINKS MENTIONED:

- Matthew's Adopt Responsibility podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzwP_qFSXmDs-79VMFmcQQw

- Garrett's This Could Be Interesting podcast: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThisCouldBeInteresting

- Physics Contest: https://youtu.be/V93GQaDtv8w

- John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/3p8o3-7mvQc

- John and Bernardo: https://youtu.be/UWcTmeAs44I

- John and Joscha Bach: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4

- Iain McGilchrist on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-SgOwc6Pe4

- Iain's book (Master and His Emissary): https://amzn.to/3r7L064

- Iain's book (The Matter With Things): https://amzn.to/3LELdak

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:44 Iain on the "meaning crisis"

00:09:29 John on the "meaning crisis"

00:15:10 Technology amplifies our lack of wisdom

00:18:26 Rationality and Belief (Iain vs. John)

00:28:35 Imaginary vs. Imaginal

00:37:03 Non-theism vs. Religion (against meditation as spiritual redress)

00:53:38 Not doing vs. Un-doing vs. Being passive vs. Un-Knowing

01:09:22 The way God sees us vs. The way we see God

01:22:06 Sam Harris, Closing yourself off to the Divine, and Terror

01:29:20 The importance of Sangha (community), and how can John's neoplatonism work?

01:40:43 Faith, Whitehead, and Reciprocal Opening

01:47:56 Against "being present"

01:54:58 Marrying a religion

02:04:24 Should we certainly give up on certainty?

02:06:06 On not speaking and the un-making of TOE

02:08:14 John and Iain summate

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