The Pat McAfee Show PMS 2.0 1473 - Watt Wednesday, Adam Schefter, Luke Kuechly, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Dec 17, 2025 
NFL stars JJ Watt and Luke Kuechly join the discussion, sharing their expert insights. JJ Watt breaks down Week 15 and reflects on almost signing with the Packers, while also providing updates on his brother TJ's recovery. Luke Kuechly dives into defensive strategies and previews the Monday Night Football Playbook with Next Gen Stats. The crew debates Tua Tagovailoa's future after his benching and discusses playoff defenses versus offensive powerhouses, blending humor and analysis for an entertaining show!
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Small Schools Win Through Trenches And Depth
- AQ Shipley described how smaller-school teams can beat big programs through trenches, depth, and coaching like Iowa's model.
- He used West Virginia's upset wins as examples of how tenacity and scheme can overcome size deficits.
Undersized Measurables Don't Preclude Success
- AQ described his college body and evaluation quirks humorously: short arms, big belly, and being undervalued yet succeeding in the NFL.
- He used his West Virginia story to illustrate non-measurable traits matter in football evaluation.
West Virginia Upsets Show Underdog Potential
- AQ and Pat swapped stories about beating bigger teams with speed and tenacity at West Virginia, showing underdog upsets are plausible.
- Pat recalled West Virginia wins over Georgia and Oklahoma as proof smaller or 'undersized' teams can prevail.