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Dwarkesh Podcast

Shane Legg (DeepMind Founder) - 2028 AGI, New Architectures, Aligning Superhuman Models

Oct 26, 2023
44:19
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Shane Legg, Founder and Chief AGI Scientist of Google DeepMind, discusses the timeline for AGI reaching 2028 and the need for new architectures. They explore how to align superhuman models and the impact of DeepMind on safety versus capabilities. The future of AI is also discussed, specifically the importance of multimodality in processing images, videos, and other modalities.
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Quick takeaways

  • AGI is expected to be achieved around 2028 and will require new architectures and improved alignment with superhuman models.
  • To ensure the ethical development of AGI, it is crucial to enhance reasoning abilities, develop comprehensive ethics understanding, and establish safety benchmarks.

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Measuring progress towards AGI

Progress towards AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) is difficult to measure concretely. AGI aims to achieve the cognitive capabilities of humans, which encompass a wide range of tasks. While specific tasks can be measured more easily, measuring the generality of AGI is more challenging. It requires a comprehensive set of tests that cover various cognitive tasks humans can perform. Human performance serves as a benchmark, and an AI system must match or exceed human performance across different tasks. When an AI system consistently performs at or above human levels across a broad range of cognitive tasks, it can be considered as an AGI candidate.

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