Ashley Carman, a podcast industry expert and writer of the Hot Pod newsletter, dives into the controversies surrounding Joe Rogan's podcast and its impact on Spotify. She discusses Neil Young and Joni Mitchell's protests over misinformation and the financial stakes involved. The conversation highlights how Rogan's massive audience shapes Spotify's advertising strategies and the challenges the platform faces amid evolving media dynamics. Carman explores the complexities of media responsibility and the influence of podcasting on public health debates.