
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast Inside COP: Protests at COP30 - and the reality of Indigenous representation
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Nov 13, 2025 Helena Gualinga, an Indigenous climate advocate from Sarayaku, Ecuador, dives into the struggles for representation at COP30. She highlights the protests that breached the Blue Zone, exposing the disconnect between visibility and real influence for Indigenous voices. Helena discusses challenges like restricted access to negotiations and fears of tokenism while advocating for land rights and proper consultation practices. Additionally, she emphasizes the necessity of Indigenous leadership in climate discussions to ensure effective stewardship of the planet.
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Promise Versus Experience At COP30
- COP30 promised to center Indigenous voices but many feel excluded or under-consulted.
- Protests and a breach of the Blue Zone exposed a gap between rhetoric and Indigenous experience.
200-Boat Flotilla In Guajará Bay
- A flotilla of 200 boats occupied Guajará Bay as a historic act for the Amazon and climate justice.
- Chief Rauni Metuk-Tire proclaimed, 'the forest lives because we are here.'
TFFF's Dedicated Indigenous Allocation
- The Tropical Forest Forever Facility (TFFF) commits a minimum 20% allocation to Indigenous and local communities.
- TFFF co-designed this allocation with a global steering committee to increase direct access and decision-making.

