As India is overwhelmed by a devastating new wave of COVID, a new variant has sent shockwaves across the world. How serious is it? Is there too much sensationalism? Could it threaten the UK's relaxation timetable? Why isn't it on the Government's travel 'red list'? What about other variants? How can we confidently escape this nightmare?
I'm joined by Deepti Gurdasani from Queen Mary University of London and Kit Yates from the University of Bath, and journalist Sania Farooqui live from New Delhi.
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