Bulwark Takes Democrats Are Winning… Now What? (w/ Josh Shapiro)
Nov 5, 2025
Josh Shapiro, the Governor of Pennsylvania known for his focus on pragmatic governance, joins Sarah Longwell to delve into the implications of recent Democratic wins. They discuss how voters are rejecting chaos and rallying around candidates committed to improving lives. Shapiro highlights the struggles faced by communities, especially farmers hurt by tariffs, and stresses the importance of accountability in politics. The conversation also touches on bridging divides over Israel and Gaza while emphasizing the need for moral clarity in confronting hate.
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Voters Reject Chaos, Reward Problem-Solving
- Voters rejected chaos and extremism while rewarding problem-solving candidates.
- Josh Shapiro says this signals a forward-looking path for Democrats beyond obsessing over the past.
Food Bank Line Shows Policy Consequences
- Shapiro describes a two- to three-block line at a pop-up food bank in Philadelphia due to lost SNAP benefits after a government shutdown.
- He ties the hunger and tariff pain for farmers directly to Donald Trump's policies hurting his own voters.
Focus On Tangible Wins For Voters
- Governors should focus on tangible improvements like cheaper health care and better housing to win trust.
- Shapiro argues a president should likewise center everyday problem-solving, not chaos.