The Hague Program for Cyber Norms Podcast Episode 2: Threat intel and cyber research – a troubled relationship?
Jan 22, 2021
In this episode, Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a security researcher and adjunct professor at Johns Hopkins, Florian Egloff, a cybersecurity researcher at ETH Zurich, and Frédérick Douzet, a professor at the University of Paris 8, dive into the complex world of cyber research. They explore the difficulties academics face accessing private sector data and the resulting impact on understanding cyber threats. The discussion also addresses the importance of academia in correcting cybersecurity imbalances globally and how ethical research can combat disinformation in cyber conflict.
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Divide Between Academia and Industry
- Academia and commercial sectors in cyber research often operate in different realities with limited interaction.
- This divide leads to two diverging narratives on nation-state cyber operations, weakening overall understanding.
Challenges Accessing Private Sector Data
- Access to private sector cyber threat data is difficult due to commercial interests, costs, and confidentiality issues.
- Academics resort to open-source data and build their own tools, but lack of raw data limits research depth.
Trust and Expertise Barriers
- Trust issues and short academic tenure hinder long-term collaboration with private threat intel companies.
- Threat intelligence is a young discipline rarely taught at universities, limiting natural expertise pools for collaboration.