Coming right in the middle of the industry’s most challenging period so far, Real Vision co-founder and CEO Raoul Pal’s conversation with Franklin Templeton Senior Vice President Sandy Kaul could not be more timely. Sandy, a leader in the industry recognized for her long-term vision, shares with Raoul the story of how she got sucked into the crypto rabbit hole and explains why she believes the future of finance is digital, highlighting the ways TradFi can better use blockchain and DeFi technology. Raoul and Sandy take up the fraught question of institutional adoption. It’s a talk tailored for macro and crypto heads alike. Recorded on November 16, 2022.

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