Doom Debates Doom Debates Live @ Manifest 2025 — Liron vs. Everyone
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Jun 9, 2025 Dive into a lively discussion at Manifest 2025, where diverse opinions on AI doom take center stage. Explore whether AGI is just around the corner and if it might surpass human intelligence. Debate the moral implications of AI and whether higher intelligence leads to moral goodness. Unpack the concept of 'optimization power' and the nuances of AI safety amidst various perspectives. The conversation challenges listeners to confront their beliefs about AI's future and the reality of existential risks.
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Nuanced Spectrum of AI Doom
- AI doom is not a simple binary of doomer vs non-doomer but a complex array of many positions.
- Liron counts roughly 83 ways people justify being non-doomers, showing the nuanced spectrum of beliefs.
Intelligence as Optimization Power
- Intelligence is best understood as optimization power: how well an agent steers outcomes.
- AI can vastly exceed human intelligence by performing complex optimizations across many domains, not just traditional IQ metrics.
Intelligence Doesn't Equal Morality
- Higher intelligence doesn't necessarily lead to moral goodness.
- AI might lack empathy embedded in human design, so smarter AI could still behave immorally.