
The Tikvah Podcast Jonathan Leaf on What New Research about Men and Apes Says about Human Nature
Nov 7, 2025
Jonathan Leaf, a playwright and critic known for his work The Primate Myth, challenges the longstanding belief that humans are merely advanced primates. He discusses groundbreaking research showing that humans share only about 86% of our genes with chimpanzees, particularly in traits governing cooperation and empathy. Leaf argues this allows us to reconsider human nature as more cooperative than aggressive. He also explores the implications of language on social development and contrasts chimp violence with human social structures.
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Genetic Gap With Chimps Matters
- A recent large genetic study found humans share ~86.5% of genes with chimps, not ~98.6% as long claimed.
- Many differences concentrate in brain regions linked to empathy, cooperation, and language.
Chimps Lack Human-Style Empathy
- Chimpanzees show no inclination to share food with strangers and choose selfish options when cooperation costs nothing.
- Neuroscience shows empathy-related brain areas function very differently in chimps versus humans.
Dog Whispering Exposed Chimps' Limits
- Jonathan Leaf recounts a friend whispering the word “car” around his dog to avoid upsetting it.
- He contrasts dogs' language comprehension with chimps' poor word learning to highlight human linguistic uniqueness.




