Patricia Kaishan: Lessons from fungi as queer companions
Sep 14, 2023
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Dr. Patricia Kaishian, a mycologist, discusses the connection between fungi and their fluid, interconnected identities. They explore biases in mycology and the importance of honoring and expanding awareness. The concept of deep time in relation to the climate crisis is also discussed. 'Forest Euphoria,' a book on organisms challenging norms, and individuals making a positive impact are highlighted.
The speaker explores the intersection of mycology and queer theory, highlighting how both challenge societal norms and standards of categorization.
The podcast emphasizes the need for scientists to confront and recognize the cultural influences that shape their research.
Deep dives
The Power of Fungi and Identity
The episode explores the speaker's personal connection to fungi and how it relates to their identity as an Armenian person. They found comfort and companionship in fungi, even though others perceive them negatively. This connection with fungi has helped the speaker understand their own patterns of being and accept themselves. The conversation also delves into the intersection of mycology and queer theory, highlighting how both challenge societal norms and standards of categorization.
The Influence of Culture on Mycology
The podcast discusses how cultural perspectives and biases have influenced the field of mycology. The speaker argues that traditional Western beliefs and attitudes toward mushrooms and fungi have prevented a deeper understanding and appreciation of their role in ecosystems. The dominance of Western European institutions has shaped the knowledge base and canon of mycology. The episode emphasizes the need for scientists to confront and recognize the cultural influences that shape their research.
The Limitations of Scientific Objectivity
The episode explores how scientific objectivity can be limited and influenced by social dynamics and cultural norms. The speaker highlights the importance of acknowledging and discussing the biases and perspectives that can shape scientific research. They argue that science is a social endeavor and that recognizing the limitations and biases can lead to a more accurate and comprehensive understanding of the world.
The Concept of Deep Time and Interdependencies
The episode reflects on the concept of deep time and how it shapes our understanding of the world. It highlights the importance of recognizing the vast and incomprehensible history of the Earth and its impact on our present moment. The speaker emphasizes the interdependencies between species and the need to cultivate humility and care in our relationship with nature. The episode also touches on the pleasure of evolution and the urgent need for stewardship in the face of the current mass extinction.
In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Patricia Kaishian, a mycologist, writer, and educator who gestures to mycology as a queer discipline. Situated as a queer member of Armenian diaspora, Patricia threads connections between the often misunderstood and mis/under-represented displacement of mycelial bodes and her own. Offering a glimpse of the complex, fascinating, taxonomy-defying world of fungi, Patricia invokes reflections on how we can learn from, dream with, and reclaim queer existence with our fungal kin.
What stories of diversity, fluidity, and resilience do they sporulate? What lessons can they inspire in an age of ecological collapse? And what narratives can they invite us to decompose and re-birth?
(The musical offering featured in this episode is When You Carried Me by Oropendola.)
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