Shannon McLeod [Guest host: Emily Costa]

Guest host Emily Costa talks with Shannon McLeod about writing (or not) over summer break, watching kids learn to read, pushing against and accepting your tendencies, NATURE TRAIL STORIES (Thirty West, 2023), "borecore," walking (and noticing), birds, loneliness, writing short vs. long, reality TV, writing communities, and more.

Shannon McLeod is the author of the collection Nature Trail Stories (Thirty West, 2023), the novella Whimsy (Long Day Press, 2021) and the essay chapbook Pathetic (University of Indianapolis Etchings Press). Her writing has appeared in Tin House Online, Wigleaf, Hobart, Joyland Magazine, Cosmonauts Avenue, and Prairie Schooner, among other publications. 

Emily Costa is the author of Until It Feels Right (Autofocus Books, 2022). Her work can be found in X-R-A-Y, Hobart, Barrelhouse, Wigleaf, and elsewhere. She is currently working on a novel sort of about her father's video store, as well as a book of short stories.

Podcast theme: DJ Garlik & Bertholet's "Special Sause" used with permission from Bertholet.