25: Nathaniel Rich and Juliana Spahr: As the World Burns, Trump Tweets

For episode 25 of the Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast, novelist and journalist Nathaniel Rich and poet and activist Juliana Spahr discuss writing about climate change and ecological destruction with hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell. In part one, Rich discusses the history and craft behind his groundbreaking New York Times Magazine article “Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change.” Next, Spahr talks about her recent Harper’s poem “A Destruction Story,” Trump’s use of poetry in his recent rallies, and the purpose of ecopoetics.

Readings for the episode: “Losing Earth,” Odds Against Tomorrow, and King Zeno by Nathaniel Rich

“A Destruction Story” and “Gentle Now, Don’t Add to Heartache” by Juliana Spahr

The Jasons: The Secret History of Science’s Postwar Elite by Ann Finkbeiner

In Cold Blood by Truman Capote

The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe

 John Adams by David McCullough Behind the Beautiful Forevers by Katherine Boohttps://www.indiebound.org/book/9780812979329 Encounters with the Archdruid by John McPheehttps://www.indiebound.org/book/9780374514310 Nathaniel Rich’s Energy Gang podcast interview

Turtle Island by Gary Snyder

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