

Episode 4625: Live From SAS; Final Day Of AI Summit Playing God
Jul 11, 2025
In a dynamic discussion, economist Jim Rickards and journalist Natalie Winters tackle the urgent need for AI regulation amid rising surveillance concerns. They delve into the historical political implications of technology misuse and the influence of foreign entities on U.S. interests. Rickards highlights the necessity for accountability within intelligence agencies, while Winters addresses grassroots frustrations and media disconnects, especially regarding high-profile cases like Epstein. Together, they spotlight the potential for AI to reshape governance and public trust.
AI Snips
Chapters
Books
Transcript
Episode notes
AI Regulation Outpaces Control
- The UN and global organizations are eager to regulate AI due to fears of losing control.
- Powerful AI labs are advancing rapidly beyond government or public control, risking a digital surveillance state.
Frontier AI Labs' Unregulated Power
- Frontier AI labs like Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, and XAI lead rapid AI advancement.
- These labs operate with minimal regulation despite their profound power and influence.
States Must Control AI Now
- States must assert control over AI if federal government fails.
- Citizens and leaders like Josh Hawley need to fight for state-based AI regulation.