

PT 604 - Paul Gillis-Smith - Psychedelics, Religion & Lisa Bieberman
May 21, 2025
Paul Gillis-Smith, from Harvard Divinity School, dives deep into the rich intersection of psychedelics and spirituality. He explores the legacy of Lisa Bieberman, a trailblazer in psychedelic harm reduction, and her pivotal role in the '60s movement. The conversation also highlights Quaker traditions and their unique connection to LSD use. Paul shares insights into his work at the Center for the Study of World Religions, emphasizing the importance of spiritual care in psychedelic experiences and upcoming workshops aimed at enhancing these practices.
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Quakerism as Psychedelic Container
- Lisa saw Quaker meetings as an ideal spiritual container for psychedelic experiences due to their minimalist, contemplative nature.
- Her work emphasized that psychedelic truths are often simple but deeply transformative when experienced.
Support Network During Trips
- When having a difficult psychedelic experience, it's vital to have a supportive contact rather than unprepared acquaintances or family.
- Lisa started a psychedelic telephone directory to connect people with helpful, informed support in crisis moments.
Minimalism of Quakerism
- Quaker meetings, especially unstructured ones, rely on silent worship and personal spiritual guidance.
- The simple, communal nature of Quakerism offers a flexible and inclusive framework for spiritual and psychedelic experiences.