Explore the captivating subculture of murderinos, a group of fans drawn to true crime narratives. The discussion highlights the emotional ties and societal perceptions influencing women's fascination with such stories. Dive into the ethical dilemmas of storytelling within this genre and the delicate balance between comedy and tragedy. The hosts also navigate their personal growth, humor amid darkness, and the complexities of feminism intersecting with true crime narratives. It's a thought-provoking look at how real-life traumas shape our collective experience.
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Gifted Kid Jab
Hannah teases Maia about being a "gifted kid".
Maia jokingly claims Hannah is a small person living in her brain.
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JonBenét Ramsey Coincidence
Maia recounts a time she made a JonBenét Ramsey joke with a friend.
Later, JonBenét Ramsey content appeared on her Netflix and in an episode of Broad City.
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Sensationalism vs. Mundanity
People prefer sensational stories over mundane ones, even in true crime.
They find it hard to accept that ordinary people are capable of murder.
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Published in 1925, 'The Great Gatsby' is a tragic love story, a mystery, and a social commentary on American life during the Jazz Age. The novel is narrated by Nick Carraway, who moves to Long Island and becomes entangled in the lives of his wealthy and mysterious neighbor, Jay Gatsby, and Gatsby's obsession to win back his first love, Daisy Buchanan. The story delves into themes of honesty, the temptations of wealth, and the struggle to escape the past, ultimately reflecting on the disintegration of the American Dream.
The Lovely Bones
Alice Sebold
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The Guest
Emma Cline
The novel follows Alex, a 22-year-old woman who, after a misstep at a dinner party, is dismissed by her wealthy boyfriend Simon and left to fend for herself on Long Island. With limited resources and a waterlogged phone, Alex uses her ability to navigate the desires of others to stay on the island. She drifts through the lives of the wealthy, creating different personas to survive, while leaving a trail of destruction. The book explores themes of economic survival, the commodification of desirability, and the complexities of Alex's morally ambiguous actions. Written in the third person, the narrative captures the tension and atmosphere of Alex's precarious existence[1][3][5].
Ever since Serial burst onto the scene back in 2015 , it birthed not only the world of podcasting itself, but an entire cottage industry of true crime podcasts, each one more ethically dubious than the last. But one such podcast may be, at least by title, the very worst: My Favorite Murder. This wildly popular series has been criticized over the years for its flippant water-cooler recounting of people’s real life traumas. And while My Favorite Murder made efforts to correct some of its wrongs, it has facilitated an avid online fandom called Murderinos, comprised mostly of self-proclaimed mentally ill girlies who have grown so prominent on the internet as to embody their own subculture. In this episode, Hannah and Maia discuss the bizarre formation of this alt-girl army, question arbitrary lines drawn in the true crime sand, and ponder whether shame is sometimes a good thing. Tangents include: Hannah and Maia undergoing public couple’s therapy, and Hannah’s coining of the term “shame-negative’.
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