There is something about Mary Marantz’s story and writing that I just connect so deeply with. Her memoir DIRT was one of my favorite reads of 2021 (listen to our conversation about it here) and she is back on the show to talk about her newest book, Slow Growth Equals Strong Roots, which came out last fall.

In this episode, Mary and I talk about striving to be the most put together person in the room in the pursuit of perfection and acceptance, feeling like we need to prove that we deserve whatever success or opportunity we have, and how our little girl selves would be so happy with who we have become. (And how even still we wonder what it would be like if our lives were different.)

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