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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1028: Jonna Mendez | The Moscow Rules (Redux)

Aug 8, 2024
Jonna Mendez, former chief of disguise at the CIA, shares thrilling insights from her Cold War experiences in Moscow. She discusses the unique challenges faced by spies under constant surveillance and the cunning tactics used to evade detection, including lifelike masks and pop-up dummies. Jonna also reflects on the CIA's innovative recruitment of artists and the evolution of disguise techniques over the decades. Through her captivating stories, she highlights the resilience of operatives navigating the high-stakes world of espionage.
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  • Jonna Mendez detailed innovative Cold War spy tactics, including disguise techniques that allowed operatives to change identities rapidly while evading detection.
  • The operational environment in Moscow necessitated the adoption of specific protocols, known as 'Moscow rules', to avoid KGB surveillance and potential risks.

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The Role of Disguise in Espionage

Disguise plays a critical role in espionage, significantly enhancing agents' ability to evade surveillance during operations. Jana Mendez, the former Chief of Disguise at the CIA, innovated techniques like 'disguise on the run', which enabled operatives to change their appearance while moving through public spaces. This fast transformation involved using specific clothing and devices to alter their identities within seconds, making it difficult for any pursuers to recognize them. Mendez’s advancements in disguise were so effective that even experienced operatives sometimes failed to identify her during demonstrations, highlighting the sophistication of the methods employed.

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