Jacques Pepin, the legendary French chef who changed American cuisine, joined Katherine to remember when cheffing was a blue-collar job; turning down a job in the Kennedy White House; and his work with Julia Child. Plus, his childhood in occupied France, when clowning on Nazis was a hobby. Smart Mouth is on Patreon: www.patreon.com/smartmouthpodcast www.instagram.com/smartmouthpodcast/ www.facebook.com/groups/268127480409103/ Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you never miss an episode! https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/smart-mouth/id1171755407?mt