Summary

Col. (Ret.) Shlomo Mofaz (LinkedIn) and Col (Ret.) Zohar Palti (Wikipedia) join Andrew to discuss their respective careers in the Israeli Defense Forces and the Mossad.

What You’ll Learn

Intelligence

Israel’s relationships with neighboring countries
The role of intelligence within the Intifadas
Israel and the Lebanon War
Hezbollah, Hamas, and other groups that pose threats to Israeli security

Reflections

Pressure and power
Dealing with constant threats

And much, much more …

Episode Notes

This week on SpyCast, we bring you a Double Bill featuring Shlomo Mofaz and Zohar Palti. Shlomo Mofaz is the former Head of Counter-terrorism Analysis for the Israeli Defense forces, and currently serves as the director of the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center. Among positions within the IDF and the Ministry of Defense, Zohar Palti formerly served as the Head of Intelligence for the Mossad.

This episode is the final installment of SpyCast’s month-long special series on Israeli intelligence. This series has coincided with the ongoing Israel-Hamas War. We hope that through these episodes we’ve provided listeners with a bit of clarity and background on the conflict and its major players.

Quotes of the Week

“When you're dealing with intelligence, mistakes are very problematic … People make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, but you need to choose the best people that you can work with and you can count on to bring the information or the service that you need in real time.“ -Shlomo Mofaz.

“They can't be the best over here in the Middle East right now that we can deal with any threat in a radius of 2000 kilometers without being, in a way, superpowering intelligence. We are not superpowering other issues. In intelligence, we are really, really good. And this is, first of all, to protect our family. And secondly, surviving over here in the region. We have to be the best.” -Zohar Palti.

Resources

SURFACE SKIM

SpyCasts

Former Senior Indian Intelligence Officer with R&AW Special Secretary Vappala Balachandran (2023)
Irish Garda Intelligence Chief with Assistant Commissioner Michael McElgunn (2023)
Israeli Military Intelligence with IDF Brig. General (Res.) Yossi Kuperwasser (2023)
The Counterintelligence Chief with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler (2023)

Beginner Resources

DEEPER DIVE

Books

Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations, R. Bergman (Random House, 2018)
Gideon's Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad, G. Thomas (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2015)
34 Days: Israel, Hezbollah, and the War in Lebanon, A. Harel & A. Issacharoff (St. Martin’s Press, 2008)

Video

The Green Prince (2014)

Primary Sources

A Strategic Assessment of the Hizballah War: Defeating the Iranian-Syrian Axis in Lebanon (2006)
The PLO Weapons Ship from Iran (2002)
Israeli Perspectives on the Gulf Crisis (1990)
The Intifada in Judea and Samaria: A View From the Field (1990)
Judea and Samaria: Behind the Uprising (1988)
Hamas Covenant (1988)
Israel’s “Peace for the Galilee” Operation in Lebanon – Some Initial Perspectives (1982)
Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of the United States and the Government of Israel on Strategic Cooperation (1981)

Wildcard Resource

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