

D2DO265: How Do We Measure Developer Experience?
Feb 19, 2025
Kristen Foster Marks, Head of Developer Experience at Depot, shares her insights on the complex nature of Developer Experience, or DevEx. She discusses the controversial idea of 'ghost engineering'—the notion that many engineers aren't meaningfully contributing. Kristen emphasizes the importance of scientific literacy in tech, critiques developer productivity claims, and explores the balance between quantifiable metrics and developer happiness. Plus, she highlights how communication and continuous feedback play integral roles in enhancing the developer experience.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Exploring the Phenomenon of Ghost Engineering
01:58 • 5min
Navigating Claims of Developer Productivity
06:29 • 3min
Navigating Developer Experience and Scientific Literacy
09:52 • 9min
Exploring Developer Experience and App Availability
18:38 • 3min
Measuring Developer Experience: Balancing Metrics and Happiness
21:41 • 15min
The Impact of Communication on Developer Experience
36:30 • 3min