14: How to Ban TikTok and Crush the CCP's Technological Onslaught (feat. Jacob Helberg)
Nov 29, 2023
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Jacob Helberg, a commissioner at the United States–China Economic and Security Review Commission, discusses the US actions against the Chinese Communist Party's tech ambitions, including the potential ban on TikTok. They also explore concerns about supply chain transparency and the importance of incentives for addressing national security problems and fostering innovation.
The US should consider implementing a federal ban on Chinese mobile apps, particularly TikTok, due to the potential intelligence threats posed by the Chinese Communist Party's control over these apps.
To maintain regional stability and national security, the US needs to reconstitute its industrial base, revitalize supply chains, and strengthen market incentives.
Deep dives
The National Security Threat Presented by Chinese-owned Software and Hardware Companies
The US Security and Economic Review Commission has released a report outlining the national security threat posed by TikTok and other Chinese-owned software and hardware companies. The conversation covers the need for a comprehensive approach towards TikTok, especially following recent events like the conflict between Hamas and Israel. It highlights the importance of understanding technological competition with China and the need to address the control of Chinese mobile apps in the US. The proposal suggests a federal ban on Chinese mobile apps based on the evidence of Chinese Communist Party's control over TikTok, which could potentially be an enormous intelligence operation against the US.
The Gray War and the Need to Prevent Hot Conflicts
The concept of the Gray War, a space between war and peace defined by political warfare, is discussed. The conversation explores how the consolidation of China and its alliances with Russia, Iran, and North Korea, along with ongoing conflicts in Europe and the Middle East, have intensified the Gray War trend. The focus now is on avoiding a hot war and preventing World War III. The podcast also draws a parallel between the arsenal of democracy in World War II and the need for the US to reconstitute its industrial base to maintain regional stability and national security.
The Concerns Around TikTok and Technological Innovation
The discussion delves into the unique concerns posed specifically by TikTok, as a Chinese-owned company supplanting American technological innovation. The anxieties stem from the potential control exerted by the Chinese Communist Party over content and user data. The conversation highlights the need to revitalize the US industrial base, rethink supply chains, and strengthen market incentives. It suggests a blanket ban on Chinese mobile apps and a tariff on Chinese electronic products to address the national security risks associated with Chinese technologies.
Addressing Supply Chain Transparency and Leveraging Technology
The importance of supply chain transparency is emphasized, particularly in relation to China. The conversation explores the role of technology, such as AI, in introducing supply chain transparency. It suggests that software solutions can assist in mapping the sourcing of components from CCP-controlled entities. The focus is on creating laws and administrative rules that mandate transparency and factor in technological tools. It underlines the need to address supply chain dependencies and potential espionage by Chinese elements to ensure a resilient and secure society.
China is bankrolling its own “Arsenal of Autocracy” through forces like Russia and North Korea. At the same time, the conversation around TikTok and its roll in undermining American culture and unity is coming to a head. Jacob Helberg, a commissioner at the United States–China Economic and Security Review Commission, joins the show to review the full spectrum of actions the US can take to counter the Chinese Communist Party’s autocracy and nefarious tech ambitions.
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