NEW: NYT: Serial Killers Hiding in Plain Sight (Part 1)

Jan 12, 2026

In this thought-provoking discussion, the hosts dive into a chilling New York Times article about the Idaho murders and the complex emotions faced by the killer's family. They explore the trauma of both victims' families and the shock of offenders' relatives, and how killers often hide in plain sight. The conversation highlights the ethical dilemmas in the true crime community, the impact of online speculation, and the often overlooked grief that families endure. Listeners are urged to consider the human stories behind the headlines.

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INSIGHT

Collateral Infamy Of Families

The NYT piece on Mel Koberger shows how families of offenders get thrust into public scrutiny they never asked for.
Kristen Dilley and Bill Thomas highlight that media and online sleuths commodify both victims' and offenders' families.

ANECDOTE

The 'Before And After' Phone Call

Bill Thomas recounts getting the phone call about his sister Kathy's murder and how it became a life-defining before/after moment.
He describes that instant as a private 9/11 that permanently changed his world.

ANECDOTE

Contact With A Suspect's Family

Bill recounts connecting with Alan Wilmer's family after the Colonial Parkway identification and learning they felt like victims too.
He explains he holds no personal animus toward most family members despite their relative's suspected crimes.

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