Timcast IRL LEAKED Memo Says NO BACK PAY For Federal Workers Amid Government Shutdown w/ Matt Gaetz, Dave DeCamp, Curtis Mills
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Oct 8, 2025 
Matt Gaetz hosts a lively discussion with Dave DeCamp, a news editor focused on non-interventionist foreign policy, and Curtis Mills from The American Conservative Magazine. They delve into the implications of the government shutdown, questioning its effects on the public and the political landscape. Dave critiques ongoing U.S. military operations, while Curtis warns against risky regime change in Venezuela. The trio also explores the evolving dynamics of U.S.-Israel relations and the strategic challenges posed by China, making for a thought-provoking conversation.
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Shutdowns Hurt Everyday People, Not Elites
- Government shutdown pain falls disproportionally on rank-and-file Americans, not elites.
- The shutdown feels theatrical because core power centers and military operations continue regardless.
Visibility Drives Blame In Washington
- Public perception blames visible figures even when they lack the procedural power to solve issues.
- People attribute shutdown responsibility to the presidency because elites appear insulated and prominent.
Frame Shutdown Effects Early
- Prepare messaging before shutdown pain becomes tangible to voters.
- Emphasize concrete harms (missed paychecks, longer TSA lines) to shift public opinion.
