The Dispatch Podcast ‘Donald Trump Is FDR’ | Interview: Batya Ungar-Sargon
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May 5, 2025 
Batya Ungar-Sargon, a contributor to the Free Press and author of 'Second Class,' is a self-proclaimed “MAGA lefty” who defends Donald Trump's policies. She discusses her journey from leftist ideals to MAGA, emphasizing how Trump's early administration promoted working-class values. They explore the impact of tariffs likening them to a Swiss army knife for economic challenges, and touch on immigration policies and their repercussions. Batya's insights highlight the interplay between populism, the elite, and the working class in today's political landscape.
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Trump as a MAGA Lefty
- Batya Ungar-Sargon sees Donald Trump as a "MAGA lefty," valuing anti-war, pro-labor, and social moderation principles.
- She views Trump's protectionist and tariff policies as a revival of the FDR coalition's agenda to support the working class.
Redefining American Exceptionalism
- Batya defines American exceptionalism as the willingness to engage in foreign wars to spread values, which she disagrees with.
- She believes America is exceptional but should focus on internal prosperity and put America first.
Trump’s Impactful First 100 Days
- Trump’s first 100 days included significant achievements like releasing hostages and drastically securing the border.
- Batya praises his ability to fulfill campaign promises quickly and challenge the economic elites and Wall Street.
