Dave and Aaron are joined by friend and former coworker Brandon Smith for a fun conversation about the Church Fathers, Batman, and the revolving door of heresy.

Listen in as we discuss:

• How Christianity actually had faithful teachers before the Reformation
• What Batman graphic novels are good ones to read for a first-timer
• If there's such a thing as new heresy
• The only part of hockey Aaron talks about
• Should Dave take his hair all the way down, or keep working with what he's got

A few of the books we mentioned:

• Batman: The Long Halloween and Batman: Dark Victory by Jeff Loeb and Tim Sale
• Batman by Tom King
• Batman: The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller
• Batman: Year One by Frank Miller & David Mazzuchelli

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