
In Conversation: An OUP Podcast Radio ReOrient 13.2: “Understanding the Islamic Secular,” with Sherman Jackson, hosted by S.Sayyid and Hizer Mir, part 2
Oct 24, 2025
In this discussion, Sherman Jackson, a prominent scholar of Islamic thought from USC, delves into the concept of the Islamic secular. He critiques traditional perceptions of Sharia, emphasizing its boundedness and the necessity of human deliberation in governance. Jackson also highlights the importance of respecting diverse interpretations within Islam and the impact of colonialism on Islamic political imagination. His insights challenge modernist equations of Islam and law, advocating for a reclaiming of tradition to enrich contemporary discourse.
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Divine Ontology ≠ Legal Prescription
- God’s ontological sovereignty need not determine shari‘ah prescriptions for human behavior.
- Sherman Jackson argues against fusing cosmic ontology with divine legal commands.
Sharia Is Not All Of Islam
- Sharia is bounded and not coterminous with all of Islam's lived reality.
- Jackson warns against totalizing Sharia into an undifferentiated political program.
Sharia Sets Bounds, Not Blueprints
- Sharia can set prohibitions but often lacks technical details for modern governance.
- Jackson shows fiqh leaves room for non-shari‘ah deliberation in institutional design.
