Widening Circles – a conversation with Joanna Macy
Jan 23, 2024
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Joanna Macy, an author and eco-philosopher, reflects on her childhood experiences on a farm, her anti-nuclear activism, and her ongoing work with deep ecology. She discusses the importance of love, courage, and connection during the climate crisis. Macy also explores the transformative power of despair and shares the impact of a book and a poem on her spiritual path.
Joanna Macy's early experiences on her grandfather's farm fostered a heart connection with the living world and a sense of belonging to nature.
The convergence of spirituality and science is crucial in forming a wider sense of relevance and care for the Earth in the face of ecological crises.
Deep dives
Joanna Macy's Early Connection with Nature
Joanna Macy recalls her impactful nature mystical experiences on her grandfather's farm in upstate New York during her youth. She describes the simplicity and quietness of the rural environment, contrasting it with the noise and grit of city life in New York. Macy reflects on her emotional resonance with the living world, such as observing little crawdads in a stream or watching horses disappear into the woods. These experiences fostered a heart connection and a sense of belonging to the larger natural world.
The Integration of Spirituality and Science
Macy highlights the convergence of spirituality and science in our current time. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing the Earth as alive and sacred, a perspective echoed in indigenous traditions. Macy discusses how the dangers we face as a result of ecological crises are creating evolutionary pressure for us to awaken to our true nature and interconnectedness. She sees the merging of spirituality and science as a promising path toward a wider sense of relevance and caring for the world.
Learning to Listen and Finding Presence
Macy explores the question of how we can learn to listen to the Earth and to each other in a time when crises are pressing upon us. She suggests that presence in our world is the greatest gift we can offer. Curiosity and a willingness to explore how we listen and support each other in listening are key elements. Macy emphasizes the importance of avoiding the extremes of paralysis or panic and encourages us to walk the path of attentive presence and connection.
From her first experiences of heart connection with the living world on her grandfather’s farm in upstate New York to her antinuclear activism in the late 1960s and her ongoing work with deep ecology, ecophilosopher and Buddhist scholar Joanna Macy reflects on the threads woven throughout her life. Advocating for a return to an “ecological self” that recognizes our interdependence with the living world, Joanna considers how we might further bring love, courage, and connection into service during this time of climate catastrophe, remembering that we are, and always have been, home on this Earth.