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London Review Bookshop Podcast

Astra Taylor and David Graeber: Democracy May Not Exist, But ...

Dec 18, 2019
Authors Astra Taylor and David Graeber discuss the concept of democracy and its shortcomings. Topics include redefining democracy, exploring debt collection and forgiveness, creating a democratic people in an undemocratic society, the sustainability of the current debt model, the rolling jubilee, addressing debt and demanding public goods, debt, shame, and democracy, and different models of decision-making and representation.
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Quick takeaways

  • Democracy should be seen as an ongoing project, not a fixed system.
  • The Rolling Jubilee project successfully challenged the immutability of debt and influenced political discourse.

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The Need for Democratizing Society

Democracy is a horizon that needs to be more robust, as current democracies often function as oligarchies. The goal is not to restore old systems but to see democracy as a constant work in progress.

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