

WarRoom Battleground EP 692: Keeping America Safe; Rules Of Unforced Error
Jan 23, 2025
Ezra Cohen and Josh Steinman, both prominent figures from President Trump’s administration, share their insights on critical national security issues. They delve into the effects of personnel shifts in the National Security Council and argue for extensive reform to align with an 'America First' agenda. The duo critiques the influence of the deep state on governance and discusses the economic challenges facing America, including national debt and the need for strategic financial planning. Their conversation highlights the dynamic interplay between intelligence, policy, and national security.
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NSC Growth
- The National Security Council (NSC) has grown significantly, from 25 people in 1981 to 292 billets in 2017.
- 70-75% of these billets are filled with "detailees" from other agencies, potentially influencing policy.
Detailees' Influence
- "Detailees" are hand-picked by politically appointed NSC staff from different agencies.
- Removing detailees appointed by the previous administration is crucial to stop the continuation of their policies.
NSC Staffing in 2017
- In January 2017, the incoming Trump administration brought less than 25 chosen people to the NSC.
- Every other person on the NSC staff initially had been hired by the Obama team.