Originally aired in 2012 and voted a listener favorite, @anyLaurie16, The NY Times Bestselling author (of Shitty Mom, and Dead People Suck), tv writer (Conan), standup (finalist on Last Comic Standing) and single Mom talks to Paul about the painful event that derailed her swimming aspirations and defined much of her late teens and twenties, before she eventually sought help. They talk about EMDR (Eye Movement De-Sensitization and Reprocessing) and the difficulty in having a trauma that we’re afraid isn’t valid enough.

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